{"id":56269,"date":"2016-07-27T10:03:10","date_gmt":"2016-07-27T14:03:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/danielschristian.com\/learning-ecosystems\/?p=56269"},"modified":"2016-07-27T10:03:10","modified_gmt":"2016-07-27T14:03:10","slug":"point-counterpoint-re-the-use-of-lectures-in-college-involves-thoughts-on-active-learning-as-well","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/danielschristian.com\/learning-ecosystems\/2016\/07\/27\/point-counterpoint-re-the-use-of-lectures-in-college-involves-thoughts-on-active-learning-as-well\/","title":{"rendered":"Point \/ counterpoint re: the use of lectures in college (&#038; to what degree); involves thoughts on active learning as well"},"content":{"rendered":"<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Point:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/education\/archive\/2016\/07\/eliminating-the-lecture\/491135\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-56272\" src=\"http:\/\/danielschristian.com\/learning-ecosystems\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/CollegeLecture-Atlantic-July2016.jpg\" alt=\"CollegeLecture-Atlantic-July2016\" width=\"486\" height=\"576\" srcset=\"http:\/\/danielschristian.com\/learning-ecosystems\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/CollegeLecture-Atlantic-July2016.jpg 486w, http:\/\/danielschristian.com\/learning-ecosystems\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/CollegeLecture-Atlantic-July2016-127x150.jpg 127w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 486px) 100vw, 486px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/education\/archive\/2016\/07\/eliminating-the-lecture\/491135\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Should colleges really eliminate the college lecture?<\/strong> <\/a>&#8212; from theatlantic.com by Christine Gross-Loh<\/p>\n<p><em>Excerpt:<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">But that lack of training is not unusual; it\u2019s the norm. Despite the increased <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2016\/06\/23\/education\/teaching-professors-to-become-better-teachers.html\" target=\"_blank\" data-omni-click=\"r'article',r'link',r'0',r'491135'\">emphasis in recent years <\/a>on improving professors\u2019 teaching skills, such training often focuses on incorporating technology or flipping the classroom, rather than on how to give a traditional college lecture. It\u2019s also in part why the lecture\u2014a mainstay of any introductory undergraduate course\u2014is endangered.<br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\nBut is it the college lecture itself that\u2019s the problem\u2014or the lecturer?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Concerns about the lecture derive from anecdotal impressions as well as research data, including <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pnas.org\/content\/111\/23\/8410.abstract\" target=\"_blank\" data-omni-click=\"r'article',r'link',r'5',r'491135'\">one meta analysis<\/a> of 225 studies looking at the effectiveness of traditional lectures versus active learning in undergraduate STEM courses. That analysis indicated that lecturing increased failure rates by 55 percent; active learning\u2014meaning teaching methods that are more interactive than traditional lectures\u2014resulted in better grades and a 36 percent drop in class failure rates. High grades and low failure rates were most pronounced in small classes that relied on active teaching, supporting the theory that more students might receive STEM degrees if active learning took the place of traditional lecturing.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Still, although proponents of the movement to move away from the lecture<a href=\"http:\/\/harvardmagazine.com\/2012\/03\/twilight-of-the-lecture\" target=\"_blank\" data-omni-click=\"r'article',r'link',r'6',r'491135'\"> cite data on its ineffectiveness<\/a>, the debate has failed to take into account the fact that academics are <a href=\"http:\/\/ctl.yale.edu\/teaching\/ideas-teaching\/public-speaking-teachers-i-lecturing-without-fear\" target=\"_blank\" data-omni-click=\"r'article',r'link',r'7',r'491135'\">rarely, if ever, formally trained<\/a> in public speaking.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Many people think riveting lecturers are naturally gifted, but public-speaking skills can be, and are, taught. The art of rhetoric was practiced and taught for millennia, beginning in ancient Greece over 2,000 years ago; oratory skills were a social asset in antiquity, a way to persuade, influence, and participate in civic life.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Counterpoint:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rtalbert.org\/blog\/2016\/lecture-reality-check\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>On eliminating lectures, a reality-check: Part 1<\/strong><\/a> &#8212; from rtalbert.org by Robert Talbert<\/p>\n<p><em>Excerpt:<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Today\u2019s The Atlantic contains an article entitled \u201cShould Colleges Really Eliminate the College Lecture?\u201d that has really inspired me to write, in a way that the pending deadline on my book has not. Ordinarily I just ignore pieces like this except for maybe a tweet or two about them. But this time, I feel like this article has so many factually incorrect claims, glosses over so much research, and has such potential to spread bad ideas to a very wide audience that I felt the need to address its points one at a time. This is Part 1 of that response.<br \/>\n&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The article opens with a lament that, actually, I agree with completely: New Ph.D.\u2019s do often lack the training in pedagogy that they need to be successful in their work. This training should include <em>all<\/em> forms of pedagogy, including lecture, and it should expose new instructors to the full range of pedagogies that are out there, as well as the research that informs their effectiveness (the concept of \u201cevidence\u201d: hold on to this idea) and the skill of selecting a combination of teaching methods that best suits the learning environment they are tasked with creating. Many universities are wising up to this need for training, but more need to get on board.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">However from here, things start to go downhill&#8230;<br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\nAnd here, we find the lede that was buried by the headline: <em>The whole problem with lecture is that we\u2019re not well-trained enough in how to give great lectures.<\/em> Training, insofar as it occurs at all, is focused on all these \u201cmodern\u201d pedagogies and on technology. If we devoted as much training time to lecture as we did to the other stuff, then we\u2019d see better results with lecturing. That is the claim as I understand it. It makes sense; but it\u2019s wrong, and I\u2019ll be explaining why as we go.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rtalbert.org\/blog\/2016\/lecture-reality-check-2\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>On eliminating lectures, a reality-check: Part 2<\/strong><\/a> &#8212; from rtalbert.org by Robert Talbert<\/p>\n<p><em>Excerpt:<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">But this time, with this article, I felt that I needed to respond \u2014 because of how thoroughly wrong it is on basic and easily-checked facts, because I\u2019m tired of my colleagues in higher ed making teaching decisions based on their own interests rather than students\u2019, possibly because it\u2019s getting near the end of the summer and I\u2019m getting punchy. Whatever the reasons, <a href=\"http:\/\/rtalbert.org\/blog\/2016\/lecture-reality-check\" target=\"_blank\">here was Part 1 of the response<\/a> in which we found (by actually checking the articles to which the original linked) that many of the claims about \u201celiminating lecture\u201d in the first 1\/4 of the article were flat-out wrong.<br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\nThis is yet another instance of one of the worst things about this <em>Atlantic<\/em> article: <strong>The stubborn insistence that teaching in any way other than pure lecture is the same thing as \u201celiminating lecture\u201d.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">But keep this in mind: The discussion about active learning and lecture is not about what\u2019s \u201cnew\u201d or \u201ctraditional\u201d, \u201cmodern\u201d or \u201coutdated\u201d. It is, or at least ought to be, about what works best for student learning.<\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Here we have a meta-analysis of 225 existing studies that cuts across a wide spectrum of institutional types, student demographics, and instructional styles and shows a profound impact by active learning techniques on student learning and achievement.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong>I\u2019m not sure what your reaction will be when you read that PNAS study [<\/strong><\/span><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pnas.org\/content\/111\/23\/8410.abstract\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\">]. But I will go out on a limb and say that any college or university professor who gives half of a damn about the well-being of his or her students will read that study, and then stop and at least think for a moment about whether his or her teaching in the classroom is part of the problem or part of the solution.<\/span> <\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/rtalbert.org\/blog\/2016\/lecture-reality-check-3\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>On eliminating lectures, a reality-check: Part 3<\/strong><\/a> &#8212; from rtalbert.org by Robert Talbert<\/p>\n<p><em>Excerpt:<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Our students need a learning environment that is <em>supported<\/em> by an instructor but which does not <em>depend on<\/em> the instructor bringing his or her \u201cA\u201d game to every class meeting. This is what active learning provides. It is what lecturing most definitely <em>does not<\/em> provide, and \u201cmore training\u201d won\u2019t change this.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Point: &nbsp; &nbsp; Should colleges really eliminate the college lecture? &#8212; from theatlantic.com by Christine Gross-Loh Excerpt: But that lack of training is not unusual; it\u2019s the norm. 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